today pentagon officials said the furloughs over among civilian defense employees will not kick in until late april, not in march. so the talk here about hubs of -- hundreds of thousands of jobs lost would happen over time but not immediately. the president yesterday talking about how people would lose child care, tens of thousands of parents searching for child care. that's not going to happen immediately. it would be over time. jay carney insists just the fear out there is hurting the economy and the point is not whether it's march 1 or march 10. >> what happens on march 1? , march 2? when you say -- the president said hundreds of thousands of jobs. there's not going fob hundreds of thousands the first week. >> no, but there will be job losses. >> quantify this, you're scaring the public that this is going to be happen. >> so the you don't see economic firms are scaring the public and the cbo. >> how do you back up that it's urgent and hundreds of thousands of -- >> i would love to rewind to the questions i get the day of the gdp figure came out for the fourth quarter. the questions we